Extraterrestrials---fallen angels? The Book of Genesis calls them the Nephilim. The government is investigating them. And journalist Art Mackenzie thinks they're only make-believe . . . until he follows up on a lead. What he discovers is a world of supernatural beings disguised as angels of light, but intent on doing evil! And when investigations lead to the secret Roswell site, Art's skepticism about aliens is erased forever! 352 pages, softcover from Zondervan.
L. A. Marzulli is a writer as well as the composer of numerous musical works. He possesses an in-depth knowledge on the topic of UFO cults. Nephilim is his first published novel. Christianbook.com recently spoke with him about his new book and the UFO phenomenon.
How did you get interested in the UFO phenomenon?
I have an atheist friend and for the last 20 years we've been bantering Christianity verses his atheism. One of the questions that kept popping up was "What about extraterrestrials? What about life forms on other planets?" He really stymied me with this the first time he asked me about it. As an evolutionist, that's what he believes. Life is somewhere else. For all I know, that may be happening. I said to him, "That's really interesting. Give me some time to do some research." So I went to a Christian bookstore and got a book called "The Omega Conspiracy", a wonderful little tome, by a man named Dr. I. D. E. Thomas. It's a great primer into the whole UFO phenomenon. A more recent book would be Chuck Missler's "Alien Encounters," which is a wonderful expose on what's happening. Reading Dr. Thomas's book immediately got me into the whole idea of what's really going on here. I had a book in my library by a UFO contactee, which I actually had bought in the '70s before I became a Christian, called "UFO Contact from the Pleiades" that had some startling photographs with great resolution. It's still controversial. Some people say it's fake, others say it isn't. Bottom line was I got that book out and I also went and bought the "Book of Enoch," which I certainly appreciate for its historicity, but I don't view it as cannon. I want to make a real point of that. One of the characters in "Nephilim" also does the same thing. He makes a point of that in the book for the reader. One of the correlations was apparently there is this fallen angel in the "Book of Enoch" named Semjase, and here again this being turns up as an alleged Pleidian cosmonaut and appears to Billy Meier. Some of the things out of Semjase's mouth, such as "Man should know that the God-force is quite simply that of creation," and " that man, also either coming from the higher spiritual spheres or being elevated to those spheres after numerous terrestrial lives," is teaching reincarnation. And it goes on from there. The more I got into it, the more I agree with Dr. Thomas' hypothesis or theory that what we are looking at are the actual "fallen angels," the "bene Elohim," sons of God returning. Jesus utters something very cryptic. He says, "As in the days of Noah, so it will be when the Son of Man returns." What does he mean by that? I think that that Scripture bears our scrutiny, close scrutiny, because what really differentiates it in my opinion is the presence of the bene Elohim, the presence of fallen angels getting into all sorts of mischief and trouble here on earth. I believe that this is what the UFO phenomena is revealing to us.
You have a lot of knowledge of UFO cults. Are there a lot of them out there?
Well, let me give you one of my favorites, which I got off the Internet. "A sect founded by an ex-convict has built two 40-foot pyramids and a giant sphinx with the red clay of middle Georgia, alarming some with his armed guards and prophecies delivered by space ships from another galaxy." Here is a quote from one of these guys, "We are all awaiting the coming of the real Messiah," Chance said. [This guy's name is Marshall Chance, he's one of the spokesmen for this UFO group]. "We are a biblical people. If it's not in the Bible, then we're not concerned about it." Of course, immediately we would take issue with that. Right off the bat when he says he's waiting for the real Messiah, he completely refutes the work of the Cross, and Jesus, and all the prophecies concerning him. At best we can look at this and the red flag has to come up. That is just one of many. There's another group with a web site called the Ashtar Command that says, "It has been nearly 2000 years since the spiritual head of Ashtar Command chose to descend from a higher dimension and walk our planet as a corporal being. Senunda, in his time here on Earth as Jesus, taught many things . . . " and it goes on from there. What I find extraordinary is that these so called alien beings, out of all the things they could talk about, they seem to focus on the deity of Christ. They negate the work of the Cross, they negate Jesus' deity, and some reports say they had a hand in his resurrection and have holographic films of the crucifixion. It's unbelievable. There's an agenda.
How do you feel about the existence of extraterrestrials? Do you feel that there is enough evidence to prove that they are
Well, I think that what is going on, and when we use the word "extraterrestrial" we are talking about a demonic hybrid - the Nephilim - when you get into it, it's pretty terrifying. I'm reading a book, which I only read in the daytime, called "The Threat" by David N. Jacobs. He's been in the UFO community for about 30 years. He's got his doctorate and is associate professor at Temple University. He's been doing this for a while. This book is fairly intense in the sense that he's looked at the abduction phenomena, he's talked with countless abductees, and there is something going on. What it really mirrors is Genesis chapter 6. Aliens, if I can use that word, are interested in some sort of a hybrid that they are creating. When you get into it, all of this echoes Genesis. That same fascination of messing with the DNA, messing with this whole creation of God. I don't know why they are allowed to do it. Why did God allow it in the first place? I have no answer for that. I only know that what I believe, the causation of the flood was directly related to the presence of the bene Elohim and messing around with the DNA. That's what we are seeing happening today with the abductions.
To answer your question, I think it is very real. The Bible is really, really quiet on many things. It's not exhaustive. It's the inerrant Word of God. I believe that with my all my heart, soul and mind, but it doesn't give us too much insight to the enemy and what his minions are capable of doing. There are some clues. When you get into the Book of Enoch there are some interesting things where apparently these fallen angels come and when they present themselves to mankind, there is kind of a deal that is made. In other words, they just can't kind of walk in and say, "We want this and we're just going to take it." There is some sort of a trade. What it says is that Semjase showed them the art of weapon making, which implies technology somewhere if that's true. It implies technology, the ability to make some sort of a weapon. And who knows what that weapon was. However primitive, they dazzled mankind back then enough that they allowed access to the women and the rest is history. We don't know what flying saucers are. We may be looking at what we think is alien technology, but we don't know what the enemy is capable of doing. The Bible is silent. When the Lord talks in Thessalonians about signs and lying wonders in the heavens, that's pretty broad. It could be a lot of things. We certainly are seeing something, with all the UFO sightings over cities all over the world. Something is happening.
What made you decide to write this book?
I just like a good story and I thought as a novelist I wanted to weave the truth into some sort of a dynamic plot where one can educate the reader. Jesus spoke in parables. It's the same sort of idea. A story illustrates something and the more engaging the story, the more people at least will come away kind of scratching their heads and making a decision on their own. We use the word sci-fi but to me it's not. It's a supernatural thriller based on what is reality, what is happening on a global level. Chuck Missler and Mark Eastman interestingly enough in their book "Alien Encounters" [which by the way I read after I finished writing "Nephilim"] also came to the conclusion that they believe that the antichrist may, underline the word may, have some sort of a tie-in, may boast an alien connection. I also feel the same. I believe that there will be some sort of an alien connection. Other people are also coming up with the same scenario. There is a group in Florida who say that people who have been abducted have been able to stop the abduction process by invoking the name of Jesus. I would like to find someone who has been abducted countless times, pray over them, and see what that does. Secular people who are involved seem to shy away from the Judeo Christian belief system. A man named Whitley Streeber said, "My mind screamed that these beings were evil, that they were malevolent, that they were in fact the devils and demons of old," yet he can't bring himself to actually believe that. His innermost being is screaming that this is what this is, but his reason is saying, "This is impossible, it can't be." To me this is classic demonology that's gone through the ages. We're just seeing much more of it, a burgeoning of the phenomenon, as it were.
"Nephilim" is left with several loose ends. Do you plan to do a sequel?
The book is supposed to be a trilogy. Zondervan has printed this one and we are waiting to see how sales go before I get the heads up to do the second one. In "Nephilim" there is a major resolve, you know that, but there are also enough loose ends - some interesting loose ends, kind of floating around - which need to be resolved. The second book explores this very enigmatic character by the name of Johanan. It may actually be entitled Johanan. We get deeper and deeper into it as we go. I won't tip my hand to the third book yet. It's an ongoing process, but right now there are three books in my head.
I think that this book would make a wonderful movie. Are there any plans in the works for that?
It's at Disney right now. A friend of mine, Bill McGee, is hoping to place it. We haven't heard anything yet. I've been told that it is very filmic by people in the industry. It could really work. We had one very bad review on Amazon from a girl in the UFO community who gave it one star and told people not to read it because I equate aliens with demons. Well, she misses the whole point of the book. She said she was sure a B movie would follow. It's an off-hand comment, but I'll take it. I think it could make a great film. To me it's like Sigourney Weaver in Aliens meets the Exorcist. In a way, that's what is going on, without the abusive language. Evil does not triumph. It is what it is. I would not sell it unless that was kept intact. Otherwise they miss the whole thrust of the book.
What do you hope to accomplish through writing this book?
Really it's two-fold. Obviously I want to give the reader a ride. I myself like to pick up a book like Nephilim and just read it. It's entertaining. On the other hand, I want something that is going to minister to me, and I tried to do that with this book. It will arm the reader. If he's a non-Christian, it will peak his interest enough where he will say, "What is this? This guy's got a point here; I need to look into this. I didn't know the Bible said this, what is he talking about?" It may stimulate a person who is not a believer to really check into this thing. It will arm the believer with at least a primer, some weapons, so that if he runs into a New Age friend, or someone who is an avid X-Files fan [by the way I am, too] or someone who is really into UFO's, at least it gives answers, answers in light of the Bible. I think as Christians we need to be aware of what is going on. And this is definitely going on. Twenty or thirty years ago it was fringe, now it's not. There are little alien pins and guitar picks, balloons, skateboards, it's everywhere. It is becoming inculturated, it's something we see everyday, and I think that Christians need to be aware that what we are looking at is demonic activity.